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	<title>Comments on: Spring, Roo, and Alfresco Too: What Alfresco Gave to Spring and Why</title>
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	<description>Jeff Potts on ECM, portals, search, collaboration, and a bunch of personal stuff</description>
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		<title>By: Gordon Dickens</title>
		<link>http://ecmarchitect.com/archives/2009/12/16/1076/comment-page-1#comment-49160</link>
		<dc:creator>Gordon Dickens</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Mar 2010 13:12:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It seems like this site shortens the URL for you...

concatenate these two strings below together for the zip location:

http://www.springsurf.org/downloads/1.0.0.M2/

spring-surf-roo-addon-1.0.0.M2-roo-addon.zip</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It seems like this site shortens the URL for you&#8230;</p>
<p>concatenate these two strings below together for the zip location:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.springsurf.org/downloads/1.0.0.M2/" rel="nofollow">http://www.springsurf.org/downloads/1.0.0.M2/</a></p>
<p>spring-surf-roo-addon-1.0.0.M2-roo-addon.zip</p>
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		<title>By: Gordon Dickens</title>
		<link>http://ecmarchitect.com/archives/2009/12/16/1076/comment-page-1#comment-49135</link>
		<dc:creator>Gordon Dickens</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Mar 2010 19:46:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To install for Spring Roo... 

1.  Install the addon from the Roo prompt:

roo&gt; addon install --url http://www.springsurf.org/downloads/...-roo-addon.zip


2.  In your project at the Roo prompt:

roo&gt; surf install</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To install for Spring Roo&#8230; </p>
<p>1.  Install the addon from the Roo prompt:</p>
<p>roo&gt; addon install &#8211;url <a href="http://www.springsurf.org/downloads/...-roo-addon.zip" rel="nofollow">http://www.springsurf.org/downloads/&#8230;-roo-addon.zip</a></p>
<p>2.  In your project at the Roo prompt:</p>
<p>roo&gt; surf install</p>
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		<title>By: Bernie</title>
		<link>http://ecmarchitect.com/archives/2009/12/16/1076/comment-page-1#comment-46596</link>
		<dc:creator>Bernie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jan 2010 13:02:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Jeff,

Thanks for clarifying that for me. You have a fantastic web site Jeff and I appreciate you sharing your expertise like this.

Bernie</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Jeff,</p>
<p>Thanks for clarifying that for me. You have a fantastic web site Jeff and I appreciate you sharing your expertise like this.</p>
<p>Bernie</p>
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		<title>By: jpotts</title>
		<link>http://ecmarchitect.com/archives/2009/12/16/1076/comment-page-1#comment-46568</link>
		<dc:creator>jpotts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jan 2010 14:41:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bernie,

The biggest difference is the enormous size of the Joomla and Drupal communities compared to the smaller community of developers working on and contributing to Spring Surf. Now that Surf is part of Spring, maybe that will start to change but Joomla and Drupal have a huge head start.

The other big difference is that Joomla and Drupal were purpose-built to be community platforms. So there is a lot of breadth and depth there that doesn&#039;t exist in Surf. That&#039;s not a knock on Surf--it&#039;s just that Surf was not intended to be as broad as something like Drupal.

Really, you should think of Surf as a framework for developing Alfresco- or, potentially, CMIS-centric applications. It isn&#039;t an end-user tool by any stretch of the imagination.

Jeff</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bernie,</p>
<p>The biggest difference is the enormous size of the Joomla and Drupal communities compared to the smaller community of developers working on and contributing to Spring Surf. Now that Surf is part of Spring, maybe that will start to change but Joomla and Drupal have a huge head start.</p>
<p>The other big difference is that Joomla and Drupal were purpose-built to be community platforms. So there is a lot of breadth and depth there that doesn&#8217;t exist in Surf. That&#8217;s not a knock on Surf&#8211;it&#8217;s just that Surf was not intended to be as broad as something like Drupal.</p>
<p>Really, you should think of Surf as a framework for developing Alfresco- or, potentially, CMIS-centric applications. It isn&#8217;t an end-user tool by any stretch of the imagination.</p>
<p>Jeff</p>
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		<title>By: Bernie</title>
		<link>http://ecmarchitect.com/archives/2009/12/16/1076/comment-page-1#comment-46225</link>
		<dc:creator>Bernie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Dec 2009 13:53:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi,
Thanks for supplying the great post (and others, and the dev book of course). 
How do you see Spring Surf stacking up against the likes of Joomla and Drupal? The latter two give the end user (Out Of Box) considerable control of configuration and content update. Share (on Surf) does give some level of control, but not as much (OOB) perhaps as these PHP based frameworks? How would you compare theses options as Alfresco backed front ends?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi,<br />
Thanks for supplying the great post (and others, and the dev book of course).<br />
How do you see Spring Surf stacking up against the likes of Joomla and Drupal? The latter two give the end user (Out Of Box) considerable control of configuration and content update. Share (on Surf) does give some level of control, but not as much (OOB) perhaps as these PHP based frameworks? How would you compare theses options as Alfresco backed front ends?</p>
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